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Something I am often agonizing over as a web developer is the visual style of my website. I could've sworn I've seen MULTIPLE theme template websites before for Neocities, which were very expressive and customizable. However, I can't find these sites anymore, and searching "Website Themes" turns up a lot of disappointing results.

Some sites I DID find in my searching was:
However, I would like more resources and theme directories specifically geared for us "independent web" makers, Neocities themes and the like. If you have any that you like, or you personally make/use themes, I would love to hear it.

I think it would also be interesting to discuss themes and theme trends in general. There's a particular type of theme I really love, this sort of hyper-dense, often two-sidebar layout like what dimwit and odditycommodity use.
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I like this topic and think that it is interesting. I often think about website layout and design and seek modern inspiration. When I find modern implementations, they are impressive but also impractical for the projects I want to achieve.
I think it would also be interesting to discuss themes and theme trends in general. There's a particular type of theme I really love, this sort of hyper-dense, often two-sidebar layout like what dimwit and odditycommodity use.
This is an excellent point to clarify the difference between layout and design/theme.

While they all make up the overall website, I always consider that the layout is the overall structure and organisation of the page, e.g. the placement of elements such as headers, nav, content, sidebars and footers.

When I think about theme or design, I relate this to the visual design of a website. It determines the colours, fonts, images, overall style and aesthetic.

The theme totally influences the layout, but it is generally focused more on the appearance of a website rather than its structure. This is demonstrated by sites such as CSS Zen Garden and its spiritual successor Style Stage, where many different themes or designs are created to style the same HTML/structure.

I hope my thoughts help you further formulate your thoughts on the subject. I will take notes of places of inspiration I see over the next week and add them here.

To get back to your point, "this sort of hyper-dense, often two-sidebar layout". The three-column layout with header and footer is often called the Holy Grail Layout if you want to search further. I'd approach implementing a Holy Grail with CSS Grid.
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i've been playing with the templates offered on http://foollovers.com/ lately, because i wanted to overhaul my own site with something easy to customize—with my intermediate CSS skills, that is. i really like their responsive iframe templates because they work great on both mobile and desktop, so i don't need to fight for my life to make my site more accessible :lol: their templates are done in a very cutesy, distinctly Japanese Web style, but i've been tinkering with my chosen template and have been able to get something really cool out of it in "my style" :P very excited to implement it when i'm done adjusting everything!
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fLaMEd wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:21 pm This is an excellent point to clarify the difference between layout and design/theme.

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The theme totally influences the layout, but it is generally focused more on the appearance of a website rather than its structure. This is demonstrated by sites such as CSS Zen Garden and its spiritual successor Style Stage, where many different themes or designs are created to style the same HTML/structure.

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Pretty good points to make, and I'm SUPER glad you showed me these sites. Instant bookmarks, honestly. I probably would've wrote the original post better if I wasn't nodding in and out at the time of writing it, setting a reminder to myself to fix it up when I get the energy
fLaMEd wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:21 pm To get back to your point, "this sort of hyper-dense, often two-sidebar layout". The three-column layout with header and footer is often called the Holy Grail Layout if you want to search further. I'd approach implementing a Holy Grail with CSS Grid.
Good lord I can't thank you enough for pointing this out, it's been a huge help in redesigning my website

I ought to include themes and templates in my site's resource lists when I finish the overhaul, because I know it'd be invaluable to people in my position (saw a cool website theme and wants to redo/make their own website theme).

A couple of template sites I found while poking around neocities: I might take up making free-to-use Eleventy templates in the future, because that's the SSG I use these days. There's a few "Eleventy theme" listing pages out there, but they often hit all the bullet points I personally don't like about a lot of modern web design - rigid monochrome color palettes with maybe one accent color, little in the way of stylish flair, polished to the point of sterility. I very much prefer more personalized website themes.
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ive seen a few neocities templates around tumblr lately which is probably because neocities is becoming more popular in the circles im in, i coudl go back and find some if you want
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i had been searching for some time for old web layouts that aren't necessarily the vintage-web style that is popular today on neocities. early web2.0 layouts from 2002-2005. i think there is great aesthetic merit in these, though i don't know exactly what it is. they are also quite lightweight. yeah it's painful to use floats and table layouts but damn if it doesnt feel so right. css grid and flexbox just arent the same. maybe it just reminds me of my first websites. i didn't exactly find what i was looking for, but here's some interesting things I dug up:

box-layout: http://www.thenoodleincident.com/tutori ... boxes.html
i remember coming across this site. less templates and more like skeletons, but an interesting glimpse into how things were structured.

open source web design: http://www.oswd.org/designs/browse/by-downloads/
i'd put these at like 2005-2007 style-wise. i love the subtle textured, tiling backgrounds found on these. there should be more images in web design!

themebot: https://themebot.com/free-website-templ ... -templates
no way to sort by New or Popular, so hard to find the old good ones. probably because this site does not belong to the author of the templates. this also means some templates lead to dead links. much of these seem to be from 2008-2010, so outside of the date range i'm really after, but interesting nonetheless.
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