Yesterweb Forum

You’re a moderator of a niche internet community who feels disillusioned. Tale as old as time, song as old as rhyme. Take a real break, read whatever radical revolutionary literature you prefer, and either come back renewed or don’t. * oof, I am hurt, but it's okay, I understand that you are new he...

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Seriously, Thank You for being an example of giving a damn. I know it's time consuming. It's challenging. But it is appreciated. If this is the democracy Greeks hoped to have, actually had, or what was intended in the form of dialouge.. direct dialouge (direct democracy?) Then I can see how it woul...

This question isn't well formed yet, but. How important do you think it is, for the sake of whatever good you've built, to strive to "get things right" about what happened between the YW and other communities it bumped heads with? Not terribly important, perhaps insignificant! Otherwise w...

^ my apologies again. I can understand now how my post could have led people to think I was talking only about a transgender issue when it was not. but I'm glad we can clear it up by talking :) I also feel that your posts deserve better replies from me, but I am a bit in a rush since we close down i...

Hell, there's several members of YW & Agora both, if anyone had a genuine question, it could've been possible to bring it up to you guys via them. It would've been pretty nice to see a dialogue. sorry, I should have made something a little more clear in my last post: there's at least three recu...

I would love to hear Sadness' and Madness take on this damn, you know, I didn't even look at that thread because I knew what it was going to be like, and now that you asked my opinion on it I had to go take a look and I was right, so this is what I see: someone taking quotes of my writing out of co...

I wonder if I was considered one of the 90% who didn't care? I wasn't too active on the discord server, and even less so on the forum, but I enjoyed the things I read and the chats I had with people. I do think this community genuinely gave me a healthier relationship with the way I use the interne...

I remember a quote from an old travel show that went something like “Any fool can be uncomfortable, the thing to do is make yourself comfortable.” - I would add to that; to take an idea, or a way of life that’s unusual or uncomfortable, and make it comfy - that’s exactly what you did with the YW in...

[It might be a good "experiment", in a "challenge yourself and seep yourself into a culture you dislike" way, but I wouldn't consider it a good use of my time to hang out there for fun. this is more of an aside since you asked me in another thread of things I tried in the past, ...

Growth can be stabilized into a "steady state" through feedback. To use an analogy: Hold the break down, one goes nowhere. Hold the gas down, one can veer off course and crash. We need both a break pedal and a gas pedal in order to get anywhere safely. I do agree with everything you have ...

I know I have gotten glimpses of this same "web", both within group settings like the Yesterweb and in one-on-one correspondence from places like Neocities. Each time, my eyes fill with tears because I know that it is Pure Love being expressed through humankind. To quote one of those lett...

AuzzieJay wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 5:48 pm we didn't want to just drop thick Marxist theory in everybody's lap

we should still work on and release a technical summary anyway. it might be beneficial for interested observers, and we wouldn't want to let that knowledge go to waste

Did anyone think about doing something like that, and if so, why was the idea rejected? I think this is hilarious because a lot of what you said actually did happen, you just don't know about it because it hasn't been documented anywhere. We once had someone volunteer to be our historian, if I reme...

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On xat, back when I was a teenager. We had a group chat among folks ranging from ages 12-25 and we.. damn near had a paradise online. An escape from the world that adults had .. honestly run into the ground and the internet was growing up around us subsequently. It was a new world. We interacted we...

I was active in the Yesterweb Discord server from around its beginning to March 2022, about half of its lifespan. Hi. I saw you had an account here and I was wondering if you would show up to the party. :P After all of our messages back and forth it should be no surprise to you that if I was going ...

Whatttt I've never heard of this before. Idk if I could ever do this well but how do I learn more. uhhh I learned it from venezuelans on twitter a couple of years ago. where do you learn about it now? no idea. it might be documented somewhere on a venezuelan website, if it isn't still happening on ...

And, Madness, it sounds like you're now suggesting that not even the enthusiasm for the Web that brought us together here, and which you certainly do share, was not necessarily essential to your own highest priorities as a moderator here. It's hard to put this in simpler words than "combining ...

ch1rx30 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 8:17 am I feel like the rave scene is more than a subculture.. like an irl counter-culture as defined ITT and could bring about world peace if it wasn't so addicted to social media.

If this is true then you should be able to organize it. Who wouldn't a world based on peace, love, unity, and respect?

I hope you enjoy touching grass in a couple weeks!! I have never desired anything more in my life. We are blessed to have you, Ray. I'm really sorry if some people percieve you as the one who came and uprooted things. I think most of us clearly see you as just - the bearer of sad news, someone who'...

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Is there any reason that the forum is being deleted in its entirety rather than being saved or archived by the admins? I feel like there is a lot of valuable discussion that has been had here, so having it all wiped away because the platform can no longer be maintained feels like such a waste. Okay...

leaving this game unmoderated, for research purposes

Madness, I appreciate you being active here and sharing your thoughts even though you're exhausted and burned out) Thanks and it's no problem. I always have time to help people organize themselves - that's all I wanted to do from the start - it's my primary social responsibility, and I enjoy it tre...

There's another issue at play, however. If my understanding is correct, there is a fear of losing control. A preference to "burn it down" rather than surrender it. Like expressing: Yesterweb belongs to someone(s). How dare anyone try to take it from them. I believe that attitude is in dir...

Whatever initiatives I take in the future, I know it'll be built with the principles I learned here. Live long, and prosper. :) Thank you for your words. I am only asking (anyone reading this) that, if you choose to continue on, you continue to go where no one has gone before. There is a lot of sig...

Well, then. According to what I've observed, the staff appears to be blaming the users. It's also worth noting the comment that "the quality of discussion had gone to shit." Firstly thank you so much for sharing your thoughts. I know it's easier to avoid having the conversation directly b...

I have still a lot to think about but I just want to say. This is utterly fascinating. Can't say I'm not taken a back (not in a bad way but just.. wow.) Ya same, I'm still processing it myself and I might be too exhausted to make perfect sense of it, but here is what I think has happened: Ray has p...

Actually - if you're willing to share, this is the thing that would nag me most to not have known once the Yesterweb's community shuts down. You say you wanted for this to be a counter-culture rather than a hobby: but how? Yes! Thank you for asking these questions! (the socratic method comes to min...

Sure, closed mouths don't get fed.. you open your mouth so that the ones you want get the message, find you, then. shhhhh. lol. It's the 20's yo. Do The Speakeasy thing. No Password. No Entry. I am very confident that, if we started over with only 5 of our experienced members as core architects, we...

… but it's better to be fearless than paranoid (Interesting to see "it's better to be fearless than paranoid" immediately following a flat insistence on pseudonymy.) would you prefer that we were reckless? have you tried being very gay, perhaps even a national minority, cultivating a very...

ok we have decided the timezone but not the time, so it will be any time between your april 30th to your may 2nd (don't worry I won't cheat). remember that your may day could be my hexennacht Still really don’t think they should just delete it all, though… something will eventually come and take its...

wow, whos running this? the CIA? seriously, this is damn ridiculous. first the discord server, then the webring now the forum, if you keep failing to meet the standards, why the hell should anyone care about the yesterweb movement when you guys just give up. this is pathetic. This is such a betraya...

there's currently no reason to bring anything else down the owner of the mastodon server has no interest in shutting it down everything else is near-zero maintenance, it can generally be forgotten about and still stay up so unless there is unforeseen financial hardship or other emergency, we aren't ...

yeah but like what timezone

I found the yesterweb fairly late in its lifecycle, missed most of the zines, never visited the discord. It's been a bit vague, and i always had this nagging sense that i'm not exactly doing what's expected of me, like i never grasped the actual intent of the place. A lot of the important formative...

ch1rx30 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:21 am I don't think irl interactions are a substitute or analog for meeting and spending time with people online.

I don't think so either. it's just different. both should be treasured and cultivated, if possible

Is precisely how you end up with a place with people that " have heated debates about the jewish question " and " transgender ideology ". this is exactly what happened. yesterweb used to link to agora road until a lot of our members brought to attention some incredibly disturbin...

I do have a question out of curiosity for the mods that hang around the forum and feel like talking about it - what are you going to do, individually? Is the Yesterweb still a project you're into? What sort of online spaces are you guys enjoying and creating and how? when this forum closes the iden...

the sort of massive infrastructure change you’re alluding to hmm no, none of that ever entered my mind, that's a false allusion. you have injected your ideas into my words, which is fine, but it wasn't my goal. those aren't my dreams or ideals either. you may be reading into my words something that...

I think a handful of us - not just here but from who I've met in the past two years of doing this - are over-emphasizing the importance of the personal website. The movement driving their creation is a justifiable reaction to the objectifying nature of all of the social media we have been coerced to...

I joined the server when it was small, a fun way to meet other people making sites. And it was nice for a time, but I couldn't keep up and it just got very overwhelming. It was cool checking in and seeing all the new projects and directions the group was taking, I admit to becoming an outsider, tho...

compare this to the MelonLand Forum but melonland is a playground and .this() is a teahouse maybe they are both structures with walls and furniture but designed for different purposes with different intentions let's do a small analysis of what already exists. yeah the forum itself is pretty low tra...

What does it mean when it says "transactions"? sorry, I forgot to include that part! I put in my original post but here it is: (17) TRANSACTION.—The term “transaction” means any acquisition, importation, transfer, installation, dealing in, or use of any information and communications tech...

let's read the bill! To authorize the Secretary of Commerce to review and prohibit certain transactions between persons in the United States and foreign adversaries, and for other purposes . (17) TRANSACTION.—The term “transaction” means any acquisition, importation, transfer, installation, dealing ...

It's not an underserved market teeming with money, the supply met the demand years ago! There's artists who are willing and enthusiastic enough about that subject matter who are still broke as shit [...] Maybe the whole online art ecosystem would be better if we all stopped seeing ourselves as self...

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