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I'm still really new to webdev stuff. I'm just using neocities to host my website but some of the filetype restrictions are a little annoying. I was wondering what other ways people host their sites, pros/cons, and whatnot
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previously i've been hosting at loopia for a few years. pro of a paid host is that there's probably bigger badder customers which'll guarantee smooth operation, high uptime, etc. cons will be the price.. and that if you want to do something more than static pages, you need to find a host which gives you that capability (i'm thinking php, ruby, node, etc) and it miiight cost more, might be hard to do more than one in parallel, etc. most hosts offer this! but it should be mentioned i think.

currently i'm hosting off of a laptop in my bookshelf. pros is that it's fun to play around with docker containers and reverse proxies, and that its cheap, and that i feel cool about it. cons is the atrocious downtime, the total lack of professionalism and support :p and that i need to play around with containers and proxies. if you're serious about it (which i'm not) it requires some bandwidth and a guaranteed 24/7 connection. also your ISP might not let you do it (some block 80/443???), but i've never had that problem myself.

if you're doing static html and plan to stick to that for a while, hosting your own is simpler, but there's still some hurdles and weirdnesses. i'd recommend paying for a host first, if you have the money to spare, to get familiar with some things like name records and SSL certs in a more "stable" environment. (noted - i don't know what neocities offers, maybe this is all already covered there?)

you could start by trying out a webserver software on your own computer to get the hang of it, how it's configured, etc. i've use apache with success for many years, and it's (was) considered "the one" for a long while, but i'm not up to date. nginx seemed to be the hip choice for a while.
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You can host a static site for free on Netlify. https://www.netlify.com/

Are you familiar with version control? If not, you'd just have to watch a crash course on Git. You only need to know a handful of commands to use it.

I can help you with this if you like. Just let me know.
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I recently found a website that seems to give a lot of info about web hosting (along plenty of other stuff): https://landchad.net/
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i've been using Neocities for a while too, i just get around the filetype restrictions using Discord and Vocaroo. i would probably pay for supporter if i could :? :?
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Dang the website hosting places I have been to are more for WordPress, Hugo and Joomla sites. But thanks on this one for static sites.

Interestingly Neocities thought about this one where IPFS was to make Neocities more decentralized. Yes like their own answer of the Fediverse.


https://neocities.org/distributed-web


https://blog.neocities.org/blog/2015/09 ... d-web.html
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https://joinplu.me/

Here are a few more places where your site could be hosted from such as Plume, Write.as, Simily.co, Write Freely
https://writefreely.org/
https://joinplu.me/
https://telegra.ph/
https://simily.co/

Note these are writer friendly places similar to Medium and Substack.
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Previosuly mentioned here i like to host my stuff on a laptop in my apartment. Well i just moved and in the new one i cant open ports 80 and 443 to the outside world (22 works, i can SSH in, but web connections are killed before they reach me).

So, that won't work anymore. Does anyone know a good VPN host i can use in the meantime? I kind of wanna just lift my entire setup up there (the cloud) so that's like ten docker containers or so.
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you can use github pages
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sixeyes wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 7:57 am Previosuly mentioned here i like to host my stuff on a laptop in my apartment. Well i just moved and in the new one i cant open ports 80 and 443 to the outside world (22 works, i can SSH in, but web connections are killed before they reach me).

So, that won't work anymore. Does anyone know a good VPN host i can use in the meantime? I kind of wanna just lift my entire setup up there (the cloud) so that's like ten docker containers or so.
I'm late to this, but digitalocean is my preferred cloud host. They keep it simple enough, while remaining more than powerful enough for virtually all hobbyists.

If you just need a VPS I'd recommend my local computer club. https://capsul.org/, their server is powerful and is located in a major data center. They're cool folks and their support is good, and they have a number of free services you can use, plus they have things configured so you can add your network to the same as your VPS and the rest of their services, which I've found handy.
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qt3.14 wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:33 pm
sixeyes wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 7:57 am Previosuly mentioned here i like to host my stuff on a laptop in my apartment. Well i just moved and in the new one i cant open ports 80 and 443 to the outside world (22 works, i can SSH in, but web connections are killed before they reach me).

So, that won't work anymore. Does anyone know a good VPN host i can use in the meantime? I kind of wanna just lift my entire setup up there (the cloud) so that's like ten docker containers or so.
I'm late to this, but digitalocean is my preferred cloud host. They keep it simple enough, while remaining more than powerful enough for virtually all hobbyists.

If you just need a VPS I'd recommend my local computer club. https://capsul.org/, their server is powerful and is located in a major data center. They're cool folks and their support is good, and they have a number of free services you can use, plus they have things configured so you can add your network to the same as your VPS and the rest of their services, which I've found handy.
cool, thanks! capsul seems to fit the bill perfectly. a VPS is exactly what i need. also i'm really into the thought that it's run by some hackerspace rather than a for-profit corporation, even though it's on the other side of the world.

(alas i already found a random german company that was cheap. turns out they like to send a lot of "offers" by email...)
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Altervista offers a free tier with either a Wordpress deployment or a PHP-backed website.
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